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I had a made two refutations to Saami's Article and now in the Third Part I will continue from where I had left off. The Section that I highlight will be section I will be refuting.

Note: This will be the Last Part of My Refutation.

Here is Saami's Article again:

The Evolution on the character of Jesus in the New Testament Gospels

By Sami Zaatari

As we read the first 4 Gospels of the NT, it becomes apparently clear that character of Jesus keeps on changing from one Gospel to another. Bassam Zawadi has already written one article on this issue which can be located here:

http://answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/evolutionofthedeityofchrist.htm

In this article I will simply show some more verses from the NT showing this evolution taking place on the character of Jesus.

To begin with, let us first give the order in which the Gospels were written:

Mark

Matthew

Luke

John

The Gospel of Mark was the first Gospel to be written, and as we read on the later Gospels, we find that the other authors are modifying the story and trying to make Jesus look different, something more than he is.

So let us now go and see these modifications:

The Baptism of Jesus:

Mark 1:9-13

9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in

Jordan

. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness. 13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.Let us now read how Matthew modified the story:

Matthew 3:13-17

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to

Jordan

unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Note the difference between the two accounts. In the earlier account of Mark, Jesus simply comes to get baptized and does it. In Matthew's version we see Jesus coming to get baptized only this time John protests against it, because he thinks that Jesus does not need to be baptized, and that Jesus does not need to be baptized by John but it is John who needs to be baptized by Jesus.

This is an obvious modification to the story, Matthew modified the story to simply make it look better, and to make Jesus look better.

The one to come after John

In each Gospel account we first see the apostle John speaking about Jesus, the one to come after him, but when we read each account, each one is different and each one is changing to make Jesus look more special.

Mark 1:5-8

5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins. 6 And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey; 7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. 8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Let us now read what John's Gospel says:

John 1:15-35

15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? 20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. 21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophetEsaias. 24 And they which were sent were of the Pharisees. 25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? 26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 27 He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. 28 These things were done in Bethabara beyond

Jordan

, where John was baptizing.29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to

Israel

, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me,Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; 36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
Note the major differences in both accounts now. The Gospel of John which is the last Gospel to have been written adds many more things. It calls Jesus a lamb of God, the man to take the sin of the world, that he was preferred before John etc. In Mark all we see is that John says a man will come after than him, who is mightier and greater than himself.

Jesus' death on the cross

Mark 15:33-41

33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lamasabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias. 36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down. 37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. 38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. 39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome; 41 (Who also, when he was inGalilee, followed him, and ministered unto him;) and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem.
So basically Jesus dies, cries out to God, and the people who watched said truly he is the son of God. Let us now read Matthew's version:

Matthew 27:45-56

45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? thatis to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. 48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying,Truly this was the Son of God. 55 And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: 56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedees children.

Note the major difference. Now in Matthew's version we see that after Jesus dies a major earthquake happens, and that the saints rise from the dead and start walking throughJerusalem!!!!! This is an obvious evolution in the text, once again Matthew is trying to make things seem better and more special, and try to make an impact on his reader.

The criminals beside Jesus on the Cross

When we read the crucifixion story, we read that there were two other men to be crucified along Jesus as well, they were crooks and were being punished for their crimes. However this is one of the best examples of how this simple fact was modified into something very special and lovely.

Mark 15:25-32

25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. 26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS. 27 And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left. 28 And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors. 29 And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, 30 Save thyself, and come down from the cross. 31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save. 32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

Matthew 27:33-44

33 And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull, 34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink. 35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots. 36 And sitting down they watched him there; 37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS. 38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left. 39 And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, 40 And saying, Thou thatdestroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. 41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said, 42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. 43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God. 44 The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth

So basically Mark and Matthew are in basic agreement. We do not see anything special happening with the thieves who were to also be crucified, in fact Matthew shows that they too also disbelieved In Jesus.

However let us now read Luke's version:

Luke 23:32-43

32 And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death. 33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. 35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God. 36 And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar, 37 And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself. 38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS. 39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shaltthou be with me in paradise.

So now in Luke's version we see that one of the criminals began to believe in Jesus and that he asked Jesus to remember him when he got to heaven, something Jesus said he would do. Wow if that's not an evolution in the text then I don't know what is.

Luke obviously modified the story from the two earlier accounts of Mark and Matthew, and wanted to make it seem as a great lovely moment to bring tears to the eyes of the reader who believed this.

The lady who touched Jesus

Mark 5:28-34

28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole. 29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague. 30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes? 31 And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? 32 And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing. 33 But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth. 34 And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

Matthew slightly modified this story which becomes obvious:

Matthew 9:20-22

20 And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment: 21 For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. 22 But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole.

Notice the difference between both accounts. In Matthews's version he leaves the part about Jesus asking who touched him out. Matthew seems to have a problem with Jesus asking the people who had touched him; it obviously doesn't look good for Matthew and later scribes who would want to make Jesus look divine. So Matthew or some scribe purposely left it out.

And Allah knows best

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Let us Now Begin:

Saami First Quotes Mark 15:33-41 and then quotes Matthew 27:45-56 and alleges a supposed evolution in the Gospel Because one adds more detail to the other. When for millionth time now not every author includes specific Details that the others haven't.

New Papers publish incomplete material all the time but does that make the information False. And this is what Saami needs to understand neither Gospels denied that other details never took place, they just didn't include it.

Because they both were writing different portraits of Jesus's life so they had their reasons and purposes.

Now I will Post both verses back to back and answer them:

33 When the [a]sixth hour came, darkness [b]fell over the whole land until the [c]ninth hour. 34 At the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” 35 When some of the bystanders heard it, they began saying, “Behold, He is calling for Elijah.” 36 Someone ran and filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on a reed, and gave Him a drink, saying, “[d]Let us see whether Elijah will come to take Him down.”37 And Jesus uttered a loud cry, and breathed His last. 38 And the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.39 When the centurion, who was standing [e]right in front of Him, saw [f]the way He breathed His last, he said, “Truly this man was [g]the Son of God!”

40 There were also some women looking on from a distance, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of[h]James the [i]Less and Joses, and Salome. 41 When He was in Galilee, they used to follow Him and [j]minister to Him; andthere were many other women who came up with Him to Jerusalem.

So there was darkness all over the land and Jesus cried out God why have you forsaken me and then bystanders who heard the cry started saying Jesus is calling to Elijah. Somebody runs to give Jesus a drink and wondered if Elijah will take Jesus down. And when the centurion saw Jesus breath his last he declared that Jesus was truly the Son of God. And at the distance were Mary Magdalene and the other women who followed Jesus during his Ministry.

Now this is a summary of this Passage.

Now let's read what Matthew says:

45 Now from the [a]sixth hour darkness [b]fell upon all the land until the [c]ninth hour. 46 About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is,“My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” 47 And some of those who were standing there, when they heard it, begansaying, “This man is calling for Elijah.” 48 Immediately one of them ran, and taking a sponge, he filled it with sour wine and put it on a reed, and gave Him a drink. 49 But the rest of themsaid, “[d]Let us see whether Elijah will come to save Him[e].”50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 And behold, the [f]veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split. 52 The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the[g]saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared to many. 54 Now the centurion, and those who were with him keeping guard over Jesus, when they saw the earthquake and the things that were happening, became very frightened and said, “Truly this was [h]the Son of God!”

55 Many women were there looking on from a distance, who had followed Jesus from Galilee while [i]ministering to Him.56 Among them was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.

So there was Darkness over the land which agrees with Marks Gospel, and Jesus cried out My God My God why have you forsaken me which agrees with Marks Gospel once again. Bystanders who heard this thought he was calling to Elijah which agrees with Marks Gospel again. Somebody came to give Jesus a drink which agrees with Marks Gospel again. Some of the people wondered if Elijah would save Jesus which agrees with Marks Gospel again. Jesus then Gives up his Ghost which agrees with Marks Gospel again. Then the veil of the temple broke and earth shook , tombs were opened and the resurrected bodies appeared to many etc.. and after all this the Centurion says Truly this was the Son of God which Perfectly agrees with Marks Gospel and again. And Lastly the women who stood from a distance such as Mary Magdalene and Mary who followed Jesus during his Ministry which once again agrees with Marks Gospel.

Now the answer to this is so simple.

Because Number 1 notice how both passages virtually say the same thing with a few exceptions. Mark does not mention tombs being opened and the resurrected saints appearing to people in Jerusalem. However everything else both Matthew and Mark perfectly agree on and some how this an Evolution.

Mark didn't add in the Details that Matthew added but that doesn't mean their False or modifications.

Because Notice how both Mark and Matthew say that The centurion said “Truly this man was [g]the Son of God!”

Both agree that the Centurion said this.

Now Saami thinks Matthew is an Evolution because he mentions after Jesus's death the tombs opening and saints ministering to people ect...

However the answer is so simple because what's the connection with the centurion calling Jesus the Son of God after the veil has been Torn down and the earth quake ect...

It's simple after Jesus's Death immediately the earth shakes and the temple is torn down and People are brought back to life. And because of all this the Centurion calls Jesus the Son Of God proving Mark and Matthew perfectly agree with one another.

The Connection with the centurion calling Jesus the Son of God is based on the torn veil and earth quakes etc... described in Matthew's Gospel proving Mark and Matthew agree.

Because notice in Matthew's Gospel it says" 54 Now the centurion, and those who were with him keeping guard over Jesus, when they saw the earthquake and the things that were happening, became very frightened and said, “Truly this was [h]the Son of God!”

So after all that had taken place this convinced the centurion that Jesus was the Son of God Afterwards. So for Mark and Matthew to agree that the centurion declared Jesus was the Son of God then they both obviously knew that the earth quake happened and the Resurrection happened.

Because that's the connection

Mark obviously agreed with Matthew about the Resurrection ect... he just didn't include it.

Because in Marks Gospel after Jesus dies, he skips all the events such the earth Quakes, open tombs ect.. and just mentions the torn veil and the Centurion claiming that Jesus is the Son of God.

Because Notice in Matthews Gospel it says after they saw all that had taken place such as the earth quake, torn veil etc ..they said he was the Son of God.

It would make no sense for the centurion to say Jesus is the Son of God without anything happening proving that Mark obviously agreed with Matthew however he just didn't include the Resurrection of the saints or earth quake. Mark just summarizes and says when the centurion saw the way Jesus breathed his last he said truly this man is the Son of God. So again what's the connection with Jesus's death to the open tombs and earth quakes.

Because the way Jesus died was miraculous because after he dies things start to happen proving Mark perfectly agrees with Matthews Gospel However he doesn't include the details that Matthew included.

So Much for a supposed Evolution

And we Move on:

Saami then quotes Mark and Matthew and says that they are in agreement about the criminals on the cross beside Jesus because they disbelieved and then alleges a supposed evolution from Luke's Gospel because Luke reports a one of the thieves on the cross did believe in Jesus.

I will Post all the verses back to back.

Mark 15:25-32

25 It was the [a]third hour [b]when they crucified Him. 26 The inscription of the charge against Him [c]read, “THE KING OF THE JEWS.”

27 They *crucified two robbers with Him, one on His right and one on His left. 28 [[d]And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And He was numbered with transgressors.”] 29 Those passing by were [e]hurling abuse at Him, wagging their heads, and saying, “Ha! You who are going to destroy the temple and rebuild it in three days, 30 save Yourself, and come down from the cross!” 31 In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes, were mocking Him among themselves and saying, “He saved others; [f]He cannot save Himself. 32 Let thisChrist, the King of Israel, now come down from the cross, so that we may see and believe!” Those who were crucified with Him were also insulting Him.

Matthew 27:33-44

33 And when they came to a place called Golgotha, which means Place of a Skull, 34 they gave Him wine to drink mixed with gall; and after tasting it, He was unwilling to drink.

35 And when they had crucified Him, they divided up His garments among themselves by casting [a]lots. 36 And sitting down, they began to keep watch over Him there. 37 And above His head they put up the charge against Him [b]which read, “THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”

38 At that time two robbers *were crucified with Him, one on the right and one on the left. 39 And those passing by were[c]hurling abuse at Him, wagging their heads 40 and saying, “You who are going to destroy the temple and rebuild it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross.” 41 In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes and elders, were mocking Him and saying, 42 “He saved others; [d]He cannot save Himself. He is the King of Israel; let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe in Him. 43 He trusts in God; let God rescue Himnow, if He [e]delights in Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’”44 The robbers who had been crucified with Him were also insulting Him with the same words.

So Both Matthew and Mark agree that the Criminals or robbers who were crucified beside Jesus were insulting Him.

Mark" Those who were crucified with Him were also insulting Him.

and Matthew " The robbers who had been crucified with Him were also insulting Him with the same words.

Now Let's Read Lukes version:

Luke 23:32-43

32 Two others also, who were criminals, were being led away to be put to death with Him.33 When they came to the place called [a]The Skull, there they crucified Him and the criminals, one on the right and the other on the left. 34 [b]But Jesus was saying, “Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.” And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. 35 And the people stood by, looking on. And even the rulers were sneering at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is the [c]Christ of God, His Chosen One.” 36 The soldiers also mocked Him, coming up to Him, offering Him sour wine, 37 and saying, “If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!”38 Now there was also an inscription above Him, “THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”

39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was [d]hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the [e]Christ? Save Yourself and us!” 40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving [f]what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come [g]in Your kingdom!” 43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me inParadise.”

So Notice how in Lukes version we read from verse 32 all the way to verse 53 "32 Two others also, who were criminals, were being led away to be put to death with Him.33 When they came to the place called [a]The Skull, there they crucified Him and the criminals, one on the right and the other on the left. 34 [b]But Jesus was saying, “Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.” And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. 35

Notice when the robbers were put on the cross with Jesus this was in the context when they were insulting him and then Jesus asks the Father to forgive them because they don't know what they are doing.

And when you continue on one of the robbers continues to hurl abuse at Jesus while the other obviously stops and rebukes him for what he did because he finally came to his senses and asks Jesus for forgiveness.

Because If the Father does not forgive them then the people will be sentenced to condemnation.

Because Notice when Jesus says Father forgive them meaning everyone who is mocking him, it's quite obvious the robber came to his senses and realized he is mocking God and should stop insulting Jesus.

Because notice he says " Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?

So what's the connection with the robber fearing God and Jesus asking the Father to forgive the people.

Very simple at the start both robbers were mocking Jesus and then Jesus asks the Father to forgive them because they don't know what they are doing. And the one robber finally comes to his senses and realizes that Jesus is innocent and should not be mocked and is actually praying for the people so that they are not condemned.

How is this an Evolution.

Both Matthew and Mark for the Millionth time did not include the Robber asking for forgiveness but does that mean this is an Evolution because News Papers telescope all the time and summarize stories, they don't include every detail. Furthermore Luke agrees with Matthew and Mark that both robbers were mocking Jesus.

So Notice Luke says that Both criminals were put beside Jesus and then Jesus says Father forgive THEM for they know not what they do meaning these men were part of the group who were mocking him, so Luke perfectly agrees with MATTHEW AND MARK.

No evolution here whatsoever.

Because it makes perfect sense why the one robber would come to his senses, he fears the condemnation of God, hence when he heard Jesus ask the Father to forgive them he knew he was guilty and then he stopped and Later on asks Jesus for forgiveness.

Let's Move one:

Saami then brings up the Pathetic argument that I have already refuted in the Past.

He quotes Mark and Matthew and alleges the supposed evolution of the the women who touched Jesus. And how Mark describes Jesus looking for the women and Matthew supposedly makes Jesus more Divine by taking out the part where Jesus is asking who touched him.

Here is a Link to my Article where I answered Saami's pathetic claim in Detail.

http://defendingmessiah.blogspot.ca/2013/04/refuting-saami-zaataris-article-titled.html

A quick answer to this pathetic argument is that Matthew adds on from Marks Gospel or in other words when in Marks Gospel Jesus is asking who touched him, Matthew continues it off and says that Jesus turned and saw the women.

So what the connection with Jesus TURNING AND SEEING THE WOMEN, it's simple when the women touched Jesus, Jesus is then looking around to see who touched him and when the women fell at his Feet, he turns around and sees her like Matthew says and then she tells him the truth like MARK says and Jesus Heals her.

No Evolution whatsoever, Matthew Obviously summarized the story and didn't include the extra Detail that Mark added.

However Both stories fit perfectly together!!!

So Much Saami for a supposed Evolution in the Gospels.

And Saami condemns Muhammad for the Millionth time now.

God Bless You All!!!

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