Monday, May 27, 2013

Refuting Osama Abdulluh on Scientific Absurdities Part 2

In my last Article I responded to Osama's claims regarding the Bible and it's supposed scientific errors and showed that if you just read it in it's contexts a lot of the meanings are figurative,poetic and not literal. Osama also condemned his false prophet because he knows and I know that Muhammad confirmed the Bible as the Word of God, However  Osama took issue with it and ends up contradicting and refuting his own prophet. We are now in Part 2 of my refutation and I will continue from where I left off the last time.

Let us Begin:  

He Quotes Daniel 4:10-11 and thinks the Bible has a scientific error because it says a Tree was so tall it touched the sky and that the Whole Earth saw it.

Let me give you the Verse:  10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:

This is obviously figurative language, Daniel exhaust the language of how tall the tree is, the tree did not literally touch the sky and not literally everybody in the world saw it, Daniel is using poetic and Figurative language to describe the tree and the Greatness of it. The tree was obviously very very tall so Daniel exhaust the tallness of it saying it touched the sky and obviously this tree was seen by many many people so Daniel exhaust the the amount of people that actually saw it which was obviously ALOT.

He quotes Matthew 13:31-32 and thinks Jesus made a mistake because he said that the Mustard seed is the smallest seed which is not the case.

Well let's read the Context: "He (Jesus) told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all YOUR seeds," 

What Osama doesn't tell you is that Jesus is addressing the PRESENT AUDIENCE at the time and telling them that the Mustard Seed is the smallest among seeds THEY were using. Jesus is telling the people that the Mustard seed is the smallest among all seeds they were using at that specific time frame. How is this an biblical error??

He then quotes Mark 16:18 and takes dispute with it when he and I know Mark 16:18 isn't in the original Manuscripts that we posses to today so he's making a blank case which I do not understand. If this verse isn't in the earlier manuscripts then why bring it up in the first place???

He then quotes John 12:24 and says that the Bible is wrong because it says that Dead seeds produce new seeds.

Here is the Verse John 12:24 24 Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.

First Christ is speaking a Parable  so a lot of things that he says is figurative language.

Here is an excellent response from a commentary by John Gill:

John 12:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you
This is a certain truth in nature, Christ was about to assert; and what he signifies by it would be a certain fact, and which he mentions, that his death might not be a stumbling block to his disciples, or any objection to his glorification; but was rather to be considered as a means of it, and necessary in order to it:
except a corn of wheat fall into the ground;
or is sown in the earth; for sowing with the Jews is expressed by the falling of the seed into the earth; (See Gill on Matthew 13:4); and is a very fit phrase to set forth the death of Christ by, who fell a sacrifice to justice by the hands of men:
and die;
or is corrupted, and putrefies; and which is done in three days time in moist land, but is longer in dry ground ere it perishes {z}: and a corn of wheat is almost the only seed, that being cast into the earth, does die; and therefore is very aptly used by Christ:
it abideth alone;
a mere single corn as it is:
but if it die;
if it wastes, consumes, and rots, as it does, being cast into the earth, in the time before mentioned:
it bringeth forth much fruit;
it shoots out, and rises above ground, and appears in blade, and stalk, and ear, and produces many corns or grains of wheat; all which our Lord intends should be accommodated to himself, and to his death, and the fruits of it. He compares himself to a corn of wheat; to wheat, for the choiceness and excellency of it above all other grain, he being the chiefest among ten thousand, angels or men; and for the purity and cleanness of it, he being, even in his human nature, pure, and free from sin; and for its fruitfulness, he being fruitful in himself, and the cause of all fruitfulness in his people; and for its usefulness for food, he being the bread of life, and the finest of the wheat: and whereas the wheat must be threshed, and ground, and sifted, and kneaded, and baked, before it is fit for food; all this may express the sufferings and death of Christ, in order to be proper food for the faith of his people: and Christ here compares himself to a single corn of wheat, because he was of little account among men, and but little or nothing was expected by them from him; and chiefly because he was alone in the salvation of his people. The death of Christ is signified by the falling of the corn of wheat into the ground, and dying, and shows that Christ's death was not accidental, but designed; it was determined in the counsels and purposes of God, and intended for his glory and the redemption of men; even as wheat falls out of the hands of the sower, not casually, but on purpose, that it may die and spring up again, and produce an increase: and also, that the death of Christ was voluntary, both on his Father's part, and on his own; and was real, and not in appearance only, and yet was but for a short time; as the corn of wheat that dies, soon revives again, and is quickly above ground, so Christ, though he really died, did not long continue under the power of death, but rose again the third day, and now lives for ever. Moreover, Christ intimates by this simile, that if he had not died, he should have been alone; not without his Father, and the blessed Spirit; nor without the holy and elect angels, but without any of the sons of men, who all fell and died in Adam; and had not Christ died, none of them would have lived; none of them could have been justified; nor could their sins have been expiated; nor would any of them have been regenerated: Christ must have been without them in heaven; wherefore he chose rather to die for them, that they might be for ever with him, than be alone in the human nature. And he further observes hereby, that his death would be productive of much fruit; which may be understood both of a large harvest of souls, that should be saved, among Jews, and Gentiles, and especially the latter; and of the blessings of grace, as redemption, justification, peace, pardon, and eternal life, that should follow upon it.

He then Quotes James 5:3 and thinks the Bible is wrong because it says that Gold and Silver rust.
Here is the Verse: Your gold and your silver have rusted; and their rust will be a witness against you and will consume your flesh like fire. It is in the last days that you have stored up your treasure!
James is speaking metaphorically about the rich and how their Treasure and love for money will consume them like Fire. He is speaking of how their days of being rich is now coming to an end and they will have to make up for all that they did. James is trying to bring discomfort to the Rich who are so dependent on their wealth which will corrupt them, that's what he means by Gold and Silver Rusting, it's not literal but metaphorical.

He then Quotes Genesis 1:16 and says the Bible is wrong because says the Moon gives it's own Light. 
Here is the Verse16 God made the two [a]great lights, the greater [b]light [c]to govern the day, and the lesser [d]light [e]to govern the night;He made the stars also.

The answer to this question is simple The Moon gives it's light from the Sun. So in some sense the Moon gives it's own light however it's dependent on the Sun, that's why in Genesis it says the GREATER LIGHT AND LESSER LIGHT, for the moon to be a lesser light it would have to be inferior to a Greater Light which is the Sun that gives the Moon it's own light.
No problem here at all!!!!!

He then Quotes Leviticus 12:2-5 
Here is the Verse: “Speak to the sons of Israel, saying:
‘When a woman [a]gives birth and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean for seven days, as in the days of [b]her menstruation she shall be unclean. On the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Then she shall remain in the blood of her purification for thirty-three days; she shall not touch any consecrated thing, nor enter the sanctuary until the days of her purification are completed.But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean for two weeks, as in her [c]menstruation; and she shall remain in the blood of her purification for sixty-six days.

This is not my Area however here is great commentary on this specific verse by Matthew Henry.

 During these days she was separated from her husband and friends, and those that necessarily attended her were ceremonially unclean, which was one reason why the males were not circumcised till the eighth day, because they participated in the mother’s pollution during the days of her separation. 2. There was also a longer time appointed for their purifying; thirty-three days more (forty in all) if the birth were a male, and double that time if a female,

Note it was during those days under specific circumstances, you see how deceptive Osama is, he takes verses out of their Context and doesn't allow the Bible to speak as a whole.

He then quotes 1 Corinthians 2:15 and says the Bible is False because it says that a Spiritual Leader is above the Law. He then starts talking how Christians Leaders have sinned and therefore how can these people be above the Law?

The answer is easy we have Jesus Christ who is Holy and Perfect in us. We have the Holy Spirit of God who guides and convicts us in whatever we do that's why a Spiritual Leader can be above the Law. 

He then quotes 1 Kings 11:4, 2 Kings 23:12-24 and says that since Solomon's wives drew him to other Gods. Also If Solomon built and worshiped Idols then that means he is a False Prophet. 

First off many problems here because Number 1 name any Christians who believed that the Old Testament prophets specifically Solomon were perfect sinless individuals, they sinned just we did and God Judged them for their Wickedness, so Osama is making a Blank Case when he says that since Solomon committed idolatry then he is a False prophet, we Christians believe that even Prophets are fallible human beings who can sin, however the difference is that whenever they Do God punishes them. However when we turn to Islam Muhammad broke virtually every command in the Bible and in this Case Idolatry and yet Allah did not Punish him and some how the Bible is Wrong when we actually have a God who punishes any acts of sin which Osama does not tell you by the way.

Such Inconsistency and Osama just condemned his prophet.

I will make more refutations to more of his Material in the Near Future.

Thanks and God Bless you all















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